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I've always seen them more as the "suggestions of physics..."

Sorry, my friend. Stinks.

 

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What the hell does the rule of physics have anything to do in that situation? Speeding doesn't mean you're breaking any rules of physics. Does he mean the rules of law?

You stumbled upon quite the character.

I think perhaps because it was raining and at that speed...

Although the i4 is heavier than other vehicles and likely more stable on the wet.

 

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Definitely sucks, but it happens. Cost of doing business [aka, living] in California. There's this, if you want to go that route - it has worked for me in the past, but not for everyone.

Interesting... I've been a member of this organization for a while for similar reasons: National Motorists Association - Driver Advocacy

 

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Gotta get the revenue somehow...

 

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Weight doesn’t make a car more stable.
Lower center of gravity, width and the height does

Yes, yes... you know what I meant, tho!

 

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I got pulled out in the country once... I had been following a old POS pickup with crap piled high in the back. He was going real slow, I finally passed him but went a bit too fast in doing so for the officer coming the other way. He tried to shame me for driving so dangerously with my family in the car with me. Bite me. Nothing dangerous about what I did.

This is another law which needs to be changed in the 21st century. Let people exceed the speed limit to pass and then drop back within a reasonable amount of time. Much safer than passing 5mph faster than the slower car to stay within the speed limit.

 

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FWIW this poop never happens in Michigan. You can drive by cops going 80mph and they won't blink.

...and the Michigan State Police have some of the very best research into speed limits, the dangers of speeding, the primary issue of disparity of speeds, and more.

 

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I actually did get a ticket for the accident I lost my leg in. I went to court and asked the judge for leniency since I already lost the leg, that was a pretty good punishment.

They dropped it to a broken light charge. I could not argue with that, there was photo proof, that light was f$#%ed:

I'm so sorry this happened to you... it just breaks my heart. I'm glad you're still on the planet, but so sorry for your pain...

 

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Better go read your state's driving manual, guys. In some jurisdictions you are actually allowed to exceed the speed limit by a specific amount to execute a pass on a 2-lane road. In all my moves for the military, I've read 6 or 7 state drivers' manuals. That's an easy ticket to fight in court if it's applicable to your state if you know 3 things: the speed of the vehicle you passed, the speed at which you passed and the speed limit on the road in question. You can't just barrel up behind someone and blow by them, you've got to match speed behind them, then execute the pass.


...but there are @$$#073 cops everywhere.
I got a ticket for 55 in a 55 zone in Minnesota because I had the audacity to pass a town cop who was driving at 50 on a 4-lane road.
"Do you know why I pulled you over?"
No, the speed limit is 55 and my cruise control was set for 55.
"If you passed me, that means you were speeding."
I'm sorry, say what now? 🤨
...and it was a dang summons ticket, but I was due to get on a plane to Japan in 3 days. That was a royal PITA to deal with, but the points were already gone before I got back to the US. 🤣

That’s nice… not in Colorado…

 

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Maybe that officer ordered an I4 himself and is still waiting for it...

...and maybe he's on i4talk!

 

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Bummer. Consider also how many speeders in those road & visibility conditions got on his very last nerve before you became the 'lucky' one. 🎲
FWIW, I've found the Waze app more reliable in alerting to highway Police presence than a radar detector.

...because much of the time, the LEOs are running radar these days...

 

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I'm not reading 5 pages of this, so if someone already said this then apologies.... If he wrote you up for 82 and you have proof that you were not doing 82, good chance a judge will throw that ticket out. Doesn't matter if you were speeding. Misinformation on the citation.

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

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I appreciate the comment. Yes, I have a video showing I never went over 76mph and he wrote "80+" on the speeding ticket. I already admitted I was going 76 to him thinking he'd appreciate someone polite and not trying to jerk him around, but that didn't do me any good. I'll for sure not answer any questions on my next traffic stop.

If he wrote 80mph on the ticket when he inputs it in the system (I haven't seen it yet). It will be the same dollar amount fine as 76. If he inputs 82, it will be a higher fine. In both cases, it is one point on my record, which, if I don't contest I will have it removed by doing the quick and dirty online "driving school".

Do say more why you think a judge will dismiss the ticket even though I admitted to speeding (at 76). Thanks!

I want to know more too.

It's an inaccuracy; you weren't doing what he said, therefore you're innocent of what he claims you did and have proof you are.

That National Motorists Association site I linked earlier has a lot on this: National Motorists Association - Driver Advocacy

 

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Or here: https://helpigotaticket.com/sitemap.html

 

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It's obviously of no help in this case but it all seems a bit laissez-faire.

In the UK, the police have to use a calibrated speed gun (which has to be recalibrated regularly and be able to produce the calibration certificate) and the reading on the gun its what would appear on the ticket. None of this 'approx' 80+

If they are following you, they will use VASCAR for an average speed, or video evidence, where they will use the highest provable speed.

Local councils use calibrated recording equipment.

Bottom line, no calibrated proof, no ticket.

Do they use speed guns in the USA or do they just take a look and go "looks about 80 to me"? 🤪

California is in this was (as in many others) quite different from much of the rest of the country. The CHP uses the speedometer in the cruiser to pace the other vehicle and uses that as the judgment. Those speedos have to be calibrated regularly.

Most states use a type of radar and laser for speed enforcement. Of course, most of it is utter garbage.

 

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Your dad would have won on appeal. That was an illegal judgment.

 

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Sorry… my sense of Justice won’t let me leave it alone. The testimony of a cop is no better than anyone else, and I’ve had to prove it. Sometimes, it’s necessary to go above the local level. And I have submitted cases to the judicial oversight boards.