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My UK dealer informed me yesterday that Laser Lights are not adaptive from the factory. They apparently need a one-off payment in connected drive to turn on the Adaptive functionality. I think he said it was £95…

The dealer said they were multiple emails to bmw trying to get this included and hoped it would be active on my car at delivery. For me this is an estimated 9 months off…

I have had 3 BMW’s so far, 1 E90 with awful Halogens, a F30 with Adaptive Xenons and presently a F31 with Adaptive LED’s. My wife’s Mini has Adaptive LED’s.

The standard LED’s are adaptive in the U.K. So, this is a bit odd that the £1500 upgrade downgrades the lights…

The only reason for this I can think of is in some markets varying light intensity is not allowed. I understand this function is not allowed in the USA for example. So, maybe this keeps things simple in the roll out. Hopefully this will sort out down the line.
 

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In the US, based on the price list posted on BMW's website (the configurator is not up yet, ETA 18-nov-2021), the Laserlights option is phrased "5AZ Icon Adaptive LED Headlights with Laserlight", so Adaptive LED Headlights ARE included. In the US, from what I can gather from YouTube videos, when there is a car in front, to avoid dazzling the other driver, they turn off the Laserlight, and use the LED in adaptive mode to light up around the other driver; and then they turn back the Laserlight when there is no longer anybody in front. So the Laserlights themselves are not adaptive over here, the US manual also says they turn off automatically when there are other cars around, but they are sold with adaptive LED headlights which compensate for when you can't use them. Hopefully, when the US Configurator is up, we will have the same details as in Canada and even in the UK, see below.

The Canada configurator for the i4 further defines the BMW Laserlight as: "The equipment includes LED high beam with laser module, LED low beam, LED parking lights, LED daytime running lights with iconic light guide, LED cornering lights, LED turning lights, LED indicators, Adaptive headlights and BMW Selective Beam (dazzle-free High-beam assistant)".

Actually, I looked into the UK configurator, and the "Laserlight" option is defined as "Laserlights include low and high-beam, daytime driving lights, side turn indicators, adaptive headlights and cornering lights, all in LED technology. High-beam features a laser module above approximately 37mph/60kph and includes BMW Selective Beam, the dazzle-free high-beam assistant from BMW", so I think your UK dealer is mistaken (and I have no idea where he found the £95 option). You might want to show him the page from bmw.co.uk > Models > i4 > Build and Price, then scroll down all the way to the bottom right to Add more extras > Visibility Pack > Show all 2 options > Laserlights > more details. Alternatively, this is also available in Add more extras > Optional equipment > View all optional equipment > Safety and Security > Laserlights (you have to click on Laserlights to see the details).
 

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In the US, based on the price list posted on BMW's website (the configurator is not up yet, ETA 18-nov-2021), the Laserlights option is phrased "5AZ Icon Adaptive LED Headlights with Laserlight", so Adaptive LED Headlights ARE included. In the US, from what I can gather from YouTube videos, when there is a car in front, to avoid dazzling the other driver, they turn off the Laserlight, and use the LED in adaptive mode to light up around the other driver; and then they turn back the Laserlight when there is no longer anybody in front. So the Laserlights themselves are not adaptive over here, the US manual also says they turn off automatically when there are other cars around, but they are sold with adaptive LED headlights which compensate for when you can't use them. Hopefully, when the US Configurator is up, we will have the same details as in Canada and even in the UK, see below.

The Canada configurator for the i4 further defines the BMW Laserlight as: "The equipment includes LED high beam with laser module, LED low beam, LED parking lights, LED daytime running lights with iconic light guide, LED cornering lights, LED turning lights, LED indicators, Adaptive headlights and BMW Selective Beam (dazzle-free High-beam assistant)".

Actually, I looked into the UK configurator, and the "Laserlight" option is defined as "Laserlights include low and high-beam, daytime driving lights, side turn indicators, adaptive headlights and cornering lights, all in LED technology. High-beam features a laser module above approximately 37mph/60kph and includes BMW Selective Beam, the dazzle-free high-beam assistant from BMW", so I think your UK dealer is mistaken (and I have no idea where he found the £95 option). You might want to show him the page from bmw.co.uk > Models > i4 > Build and Price, then scroll down all the way to the bottom right to Add more extras > Visibility Pack > Show all 2 options > Laserlights > more details. Alternatively, this is also available in Add more extras > Optional equipment > View all optional equipment > Safety and Security > Laserlights (you have to click on Laserlights to see the details).
My UK dealer was talking from experience of other current BMW models fitted with Laserlights, his present drive has them from his sales pitch… They were a spec certainty for me as a shift worker, so no sales required. Especially as this is negative information.

My order form has the Visibility Pack (Z0C) which contains High Beam Assistant (5AC) and Laserlights (5AZ).

In the UK High Beam assistant historically refers to a simple hi-low switch over. In previous UK BMW forums for previous cars city dwellers have not been able to justify Adaptive lighting. So, I wonder if this is some kind of way of selling the look without the function…

Though, hopefully you are correct. I just thought this is useful information for fellow forum members to run past their dealers when ordering.
 

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In the US high beam assistant is standard. The laser lights are listed as "Icon Adaptive LED Headlights with Laser light" and describes it as pushes the boundaries of maximum allowable for the US.
 

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Hi folks

My UK dealer informed me yesterday that Laser Lights are not adaptive from the factory. They apparently need a one-off payment in connected drive to turn on the Adaptive functionality. I think he said it was £95…

The dealer said they were multiple emails to bmw trying to get this included and hoped it would be active on my car at delivery. For me this is an estimated 9 months off…

I have had 3 BMW’s so far, 1 E90 with awful Halogens, a F30 with Adaptive Xenons and presently a F31 with Adaptive LED’s. My wife’s Mini has Adaptive LED’s.

The standard LED’s are adaptive in the U.K. So, this is a bit odd that the £1500 upgrade downgrades the lights…

The only reason for this I can think of is in some markets varying light intensity is not allowed. I understand this function is not allowed in the USA for example. So, maybe this keeps things simple in the roll out. Hopefully this will sort out down the line.
Included from the factory. Selective beam is the key wording. It's included as standard with Laser lights.

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In the US, based on the price list posted on BMW's website (the configurator is not up yet, ETA 18-nov-2021), the Laserlights option is phrased "5AZ Icon Adaptive LED Headlights with Laserlight", so Adaptive LED Headlights ARE included. In the US, from what I can gather from YouTube videos, when there is a car in front, to avoid dazzling the other driver, they turn off the Laserlight, and use the LED in adaptive mode to light up around the other driver; and then they turn back the Laserlight when there is no longer anybody in front. So the Laserlights themselves are not adaptive over here, the US manual also says they turn off automatically when there are other cars around, but they are sold with adaptive LED headlights which compensate for when you can't use them. Hopefully, when the US Configurator is up, we will have the same details as in Canada and even in the UK, see below.

The Canada configurator for the i4 further defines the BMW Laserlight as: "The equipment includes LED high beam with laser module, LED low beam, LED parking lights, LED daytime running lights with iconic light guide, LED cornering lights, LED turning lights, LED indicators, Adaptive headlights and BMW Selective Beam (dazzle-free High-beam assistant)".

Actually, I looked into the UK configurator, and the "Laserlight" option is defined as "Laserlights include low and high-beam, daytime driving lights, side turn indicators, adaptive headlights and cornering lights, all in LED technology. High-beam features a laser module above approximately 37mph/60kph and includes BMW Selective Beam, the dazzle-free high-beam assistant from BMW", so I think your UK dealer is mistaken (and I have no idea where he found the £95 option). You might want to show him the page from bmw.co.uk > Models > i4 > Build and Price, then scroll down all the way to the bottom right to Add more extras > Visibility Pack > Show all 2 options > Laserlights > more details. Alternatively, this is also available in Add more extras > Optional equipment > View all optional equipment > Safety and Security > Laserlights (you have to click on Laserlights to see the details).
Looking at the price list I see we can add to the eDrive 40 model the dynamic handling package and the M sport package, which seems to give all the standard features of the M50 for a cost of $4100.

It seems to have the handling and appearance of the M50 and almost the range of the eDrive 40.

From bmw.co.uk the configurator indicates that the range is just 10 miles less than the eDrive without the sport upgrades.

This looks like an attractive combination.

It still has enough hp to get me into trouble with the highway patrol.
 

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But knowing the bureaucracy here, it will probably be close to 2 years before we see this amended. So what does that mean for those of us who ordered the laser lights? Does it now becomes just a 'pretty face' as opposed to a pretty & functional face? I had selected it, but I have zero faith in government that this will happen any time soon, so I may have just thrown away $1,000. Oh well.
 

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If the hardware is there and only crippled, then someone will figure out how to unlock or code it via INPA.

My cars have all been "coded".
My X5 supports playing DVDs while in motion.

My 335 ans X5 are programmed for external window up with remote.

If it's there, someone will figure out how to make it work.

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Did the same (and many more) "hacks" with my RossTech cable on my Audi
 

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But knowing the bureaucracy here, it will probably be close to 2 years before we see this amended. So what does that mean for those of us who ordered the laser lights? Does it now becomes just a 'pretty face' as opposed to a pretty & functional face? I had selected it, but I have zero faith in government that this will happen any time soon, so I may have just thrown away $1,000. Oh well.
Based on tests viewable on YouTube, and the video here from a BMW "Genius" (technology specialist, there are one or two per dealership)
, the laserlights do work in the US and do deliver the 600yds illumination, but only when your speed is 40mph or over and there is nobody in front of you; when there is oncoming traffic, the genius says and BMW's manual and advertisement confirm the laserlights will turn off, leaving you with the LED adaptive headlights in low beam. Note that said LED adaptive headlights, details from BMW at
, do follow curves and do illuminate the side when you are turning at an intersection, but will not stay on high beam around oncoming traffic like they do in other countries because the "selective" element is illegal in the US. I DO plan to pay the $1,000 because in my case, I need this most on long, relatively low traffic drives where deers and other critters are a big concern and justify the extra cost. The other consideration is that since with this option you do get the hardware, it will be possible for BMW to upgrade you OTA later when the laws change, though possibly with an extra one-time or subscription fee, who knows.
 

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Based on tests viewable on YouTube, and the video here from a BMW "Genius" (technology specialist, there are one or two per dealership)
, the laserlights do work in the US and do deliver the 600yds illumination, but only when your speed is 40mph or over and there is nobody in front of you; when there is oncoming traffic, the genius says and BMW's manual and advertisement confirm the laserlights will turn off, leaving you with the LED adaptive headlights in low beam. Note that said LED adaptive headlights, details from BMW at
, do follow curves and do illuminate the side when you are turning at an intersection, but will not stay on high beam around oncoming traffic like they do in other countries because the "selective" element is illegal in the US. I DO plan to pay the $1,000 because in my case, I need this most on long, relatively low traffic drives where deers and other critters are a big concern and justify the extra cost. The other consideration is that since with this option you do get the hardware, it will be possible for BMW to upgrade you OTA later when the laws change, though possibly with an extra one-time or subscription fee, who knows.
I have just seen my factory build sheet (hurray!) and there is one item called 5AP, decoding for no-dazzle high-beams. I have put in a question as to what that is, but perhaps it is the switch-off of the laser beams that you mention. I suppose what is de-coded can be re-coded. When I find out I will pass it on.
 

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Yes 5AP disables the antidazzle feature in the laser headlights.

I understand the US law is being changed in the infrastructure bill just signed to allow the feature someday
 

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Very nice, thank you for posting. Technically, this rule is still awaiting Federal Register Publication, so it's not effective yet, though Manufacturers can review it and prepare for it. They also will review petitions up to 45 days after the publication for potential (though unlikely) changes. As everything governmental though, this means that manufacturers will wait until the 45 days elapse, may be a few more weeks for the NHTSA to declare the petition period over and their conclusion, then they will announce their plans. I would expect Mercedes, Audi and BMW to announce OTA and dealer update plan since most of their cars have had the hardware for some time. There might be even a chance that by the time I get my i4 M50 in July-August, the "de-coding for anti-dazzle headlights" (read: software block of ADB for US legal requirements) might be already removed!:unsure:
 

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Any updates on laser lights being enabled in the US? I noticed the refreshed 2023 3 series will not have laser light, but will have regular LED headlights that can be upgraded to adaptive LED headlights, which will have the blue accents.
 

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Looks like the not-yet-built i4s may not have it decoded:

 
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Any updates on laser lights being enabled in the US? I noticed the refreshed 2023 3 series will not have laser light, but will have regular LED headlights that can be upgraded to adaptive LED headlights, which will have the blue accents.
The regular 4-series doesn’t have the laser option either. The i4 gets some special treatment.
 
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