Not ordered yet (grrr!#@$?§|)

A little light at the end of the runway...
I just called the company (T..l) who takes care of our car park. The guy told me that indeed there is no influence on what I ordered. He said that once I made the order, so once I said "that's what I want", this company asks for a quote from different lease companies, one of them will "win", and then the offer is sent to BMW. During this procedure, an audit has to be held by another company (M..P..s) for installing a charging unit (see if there are no problems). But this all takes time. So, if in the meantime the offer expires, a new quote has to be asked at the lease companies. Now, we all know that the price went up (with 3k€ in my case), but apparently, it is now my company (S..s) who takes care of this. All price changes are paid for by my company. Pfff....

I don't know much about taxes in Belgium, but here in the Netherlands the driver pays "fiscale bijtelling" income tax based on the official price (before any discounts) of the car. So in circumstances like yours you could still face a disadvantage. How is that in Belgium, similar?

Hans said:

I don't know much about taxes in Belgium, but here in the Netherlands the driver pays "fiscale bijtelling" income tax based on the official price (before any discounts) of the car. So in circumstances like yours you could still face a disadvantage. How is that in Belgium, similar?

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I'm not aware of all that stuff either, because this is my 11th company car in 32 years. I do know that for leasing cars, paid for by the company, I only have to pay the legal fee for the possibility to drive it privately. And that's €100 per month. Theoretically, I'm allowed to drive 7500 (private) km for this amount, but nobody cares about this. Of course, when somebody makes 90000km per year and their colleagues with the same kind of job only make 60000, then somewhere there will be a bell ringing
And I also don't think that for €100 a month you have an i4 M50, with insurance, and with a fuel card for the whole of Europe, and an exemption of only €125 in case of an accident that you caused yourself.

JST1963 said:

I'm not aware of all that stuff either, because this is my 11th company car in 32 years. I do know that for leasing cars, paid for by the company, I only have to pay the legal fee for the possibility to drive it privately. And that's €100 per month. Theoretically, I'm allowed to drive 7500 (private) km for this amount, but nobody cares about this. Of course, when somebody makes 90000km per year and their colleagues with the same kind of job only make 60000, then somewhere there will be a bell ringing
And I also don't think that for €100 a month you have an i4 M50, with insurance, and with a fuel card for the whole of Europe, and an exemption of only €125 in case of an accident that you caused yourself.

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You guys are so lucky, neighbour!

Hans said:

You guys are so lucky, neighbour!

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Well, as they say: you don't have to be handsome, to be lucky in life

Most company car owners pay a benefit in kind (voordeel alle aard) based on catalog price with options and co2 coefficient.

For electric cars, the co2 coefficient is capped.

To give an example. An electric car worth 80000 euro will have a monthly gross benefit in kind of 228 euro. After taxes the net benefit in kind will be around 110 to 120 euro on your paycheck.

Now that the order is finally confirmed, did they have you an estimated delivery date?

Reivax said:

Now that the order is finally confirmed, did they have you an estimated delivery date?

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No, not yet. I will keep you guys posted once I know more

JST1963 said:

Something weird draw my attention: have a look at the list with my options. This came from the lease company.
Take a look at the one but last: BMW Individual metalic color. But actually, I only ordered Brooklyn Grey.
Now, the price for it is not my concern, because it's a lease car. But the fact that they charged €1739,67 for a "normal" metallic color, do you think I can ask BMW to deliver it with Dravit Grey instead?

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Here in USA, Dravit ($1,500) is more expensive than Brooklyn ($550). Other than Alpine White, everything is an incremental cost.

teamzans said:

Here in USA, Dravit ($1,500) is more expensive than Brooklyn ($550). Other than Alpine White, everything is an incremental cost.

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@teamzans, that's why I'm asking. Brooklyn Grey is a lot cheaper than any Individual Color. And yet, the price of an Individual Color was charged. So, IMO, I have the right to Dravit Grey, or Aventurin Red II

JST1963 said:

@teamzans, that's why I'm asking. Brooklyn Grey is a lot cheaper than any Individual Color. And yet, the price of an Individual Color was charged. So, IMO, I have the right to Dravit Grey, or Aventurin Red II

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Got it! Yep. Agreed.

Reivax said:

Now that the order is finally confirmed, did they have you an estimated delivery date?

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First time I get a delivery date: "The probable delivery date of your new company car is 21/03/2022"

I don't believe squad about this, but hey, that's what I have to live with for now (although it would be a nice birthday present 🍰 )

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I mean I hope you get it soon but that sounds really optimistic... Here is what I see in my leasing company dashboard :

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What lease company will you have? Mine is J&T this time.
I've had KBC, Lease Plan, Athlon (now for the Audi)....
Now, for the 1st time it'll be J&T.

JST1963 said:

What lease company will you have? Mine is J&T this time.
I've had KBC, Lease Plan, Athlon (now for the Audi)....
Now, for the 1st time it'll be J&T.

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I signed with Arval (BNP). But I am not sure the leasing company changes something. The good thing is since I am already driving a car from Arval, I can keep it until the i4 gets delivered. So the waiting is not really an issue but more like « I want to play with it ASAP »