Yes... in general, the lack of reliable chargers makes me hesitant to go on a road trip.
Enjoy your trip!Next weekend, I'm taking my kids on a road trip from SE Michigan to the northern tip of Wisconsin to see family. It's nearly 700 miles in each direction, and generally easier and prettier if I drive through the Upper Peninsula (UP) of Michigan. Although I did this in my i4 last summer, I had a terrible time, as the lone DCFC option I had (in Escanaba) is wholly unreliable and didn't work. Even if I can get to northern Wisconsin, the single DCFC option (upper left in the Plugshare figure below) is, you guessed it, non-functional. I'd be limping between Level 2 options, which are also pretty scattered in this part of the country.
As you can see in the Plugshare figure, virtually all of the DCFC options in the UP show up as either non-functional or 'coming soon'. Sadly, the 'coming soon' locations have had that status for nearly a year and a half.
So, I'm using this as an opportunity to rent a Tesla Model Y from Hertz. Tesla has multiple Supercharger locations in the UP and northern Wisconsin, and I'll be able to travel without any worry of being stranded. Besides, for the cost of the rental (only about $350 for the week), I'm getting a very inexpensive trip AND I get to put over 1,000 miles on a Tesla and report back on my impressions as a BMW owner.
I'm actually looking forward to having a reliable charging network for this trip. Here's hoping that Tesla continues to expand their Magic Dock installations, because this part of the country desperately needs more charging infrastructure, and in the two years I've owned an EV, the CCS network has made absolutely zero progress.
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I test drove a Tesla Model Y about 3 years ago (my first EV experience), and it's what hooked me. I'm looking forward to road-tripping with it, if only for the Tesla road trip experience. I'm curious about efficiency and ride comfort (I expect one to be better, and one to be worse, but we'll see).Emotional feelings aside, Tesla objectively has so many advantages as the most popular EV company. But @BadgerGreg please give us an honest report when you get back from your trip!
I came from Tesla, and my BMW EV is the best car I've ever driven!!
BMW i4 is a good road trip car, but only when your route coincides with decent DCFC coverage. This is true for most road trips, but clearly not when you're heading into the sticks like me.Yes... in general, the lack of reliable chargers makes me hesitant to go on a road trip.
We had great experiences road tripping our Model 3, even into upstate NY. Probably not the DC charging wasteland of the UP, but not great either. No issues with Tesla Superchargers. In general, a better experience.I test drove a Tesla Model Y about 3 years ago (my first EV experience), and it's what hooked me. I'm looking forward to road-tripping with it, if only for the Tesla road trip experience. I'm curious about efficiency and ride comfort (I expect one to be better, and one to be worse, but we'll see).
Three years ago I was just learning about EVs and was about to buy a model Y. Then I saw videos of the i4 concept and went for that.We had great experiences road tripping our Model 3, even into upstate NY. Probably not the DC charging wasteland of the UP, but not great either. No issues with Tesla Superchargers. In general, a better experience.
no, you can only use that at destination chargers or personal chargers not on their supercharger network, though elons working on that.Couldn't you use a Tesla adapter and charge on their network?
The Tesla charging network is software controlled. Tesla has to allow the charging station to handshake with the non-Tesla vehicle.Couldn't you use a Tesla adapter and charge on their network?
@Elle BMW Yeah right, Elon is workin on that. 11 stations mostly in upstate NY and its been at least 3 months and he hasn't added anymore. Nice ploy by Elon to get some Federal money...................no, you can only use that at destination chargers or personal chargers not on their supercharger network, though elons working on that.
I wish you were wrong…@Elle BMW Yeah right, Elon is workin on that. 11 stations mostly in upstate NY and its been at least 3 months and he hasn't added anymore. Nice ploy by Elon to get some Federal money...................
Problem is they gladly accepted federal money to make their system available and then they stalled out. It’s fraud to the taxpayer IMOTesla is doing the sensible thing here. They owe nothing to other manufacturers. This is a huge competitive moat they have built. Of course they won't give it away.
I'm really disappointed Tesla hasn't rolled out the conversion faster. Most of the Tesla SC stations in the upper Midwest are typically empty. Telsa is giving up a huge amount of potential revenue as those stations sit unutilized.@Elle BMW Yeah right, Elon is workin on that. 11 stations mostly in upstate NY and its been at least 3 months and he hasn't added anymore. Nice ploy by Elon to get some Federal money...................
I hope you're wrong. I'll reserve my judgment for when Tesla starts installing their Version 4 units. If those go in without the Magic Dock CCS connectors, I'll want Tesla to give the taxpayers' money back.Problem is they gladly accepted federal money to make their system available and then they stalled out. It’s fraud to the taxpayer IMO
And what about longer cables or wider parking stalls to admit right-side charger ports?I hope you're wrong. I'll reserve my judgment for when Tesla starts installing their Version 4 units. If those go in without the Magic Dock CCS connectors, I'll want Tesla to give the taxpayers' money back.