I have to be honest, looks ugly. I think the 4 series is the only attractive BMW left in the new-gen designs.
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They didn't screw it up, so that's good!
I think the rear end is pretty nicely done along with the door panel sculpting -- which is more dramatic than the i4, IMO.
The previous generation 5 series was pretty conservatively styled and the i5 looks like it's following in that restraint.
I think the rear end is pretty nicely done along with the door panel sculpting -- which is more dramatic than the i4, IMO.
The previous generation 5 series was pretty conservatively styled and the i5 looks like it's following in that restraint.
Agree, maybe we need some time.I am not feeling the new design at all right now. Too bubbly, reminds me of an Accord.
I don’t like the rear at all - looks like Camry.
It could be one of those grow on me situations. I didn’t like the new grille when the 4 series first came out, but here I am with an i4. The i5 just feels very bland to me right now from a design standpoint, but I wouldn’t mind some of the tech/interior enhancements.Agree, maybe we need some time.
I don’t like the rear at all - looks like Camry.
I have to watch internal training videos that are this bad. So... I'm both used to this and have a bit of gleeful schadenfreude seeing others produce something similar haha.Why do they have to make these videos as painful as possible?
Glad there's more EV sedans, but yeah I want an i4 or smaller Neue Klasse myself.
Leave it to the project manager to agree to an impossible deadline, at least that part was accurate...Why do they have to make these videos as painful as possible? "I know, I'll use an IDE!" I couldn't even finish it, it was so bad.
Hahhaa, I watched the entire video on mute and without closed captions. I win.
It looks like a 5 series to me. Here is an easy glance at all the generations that came before it:
I watched one video and the reviewer was 6’2” and he still had plenty of head clearance.
If you have an i4 e40 with 18” wheels I don’t think there will be another electric i vehicle with more or significantly more range until their next gen electric Neue Klasse comes out. In the meantime you can choose between body styles: an i4, i5, i7 and iX. I like the style and looks of my i4, but if I was hauling adults in the rear that were over 6’ then the i5 e40 would be the better choice.
Waiting to see the Touring version with a bigger battery and hopefully an xDrive40… one can hope
Way to expensive compared to the i4 imo, the specs of the i5 aren’t good enough to warrant it. Over here the i5 M60 starts at almost 60% more than the i4 M50. It’s basically the same battery in both of them as well, would have expected at least a 100 kWh one for that money.
Add to the fact that we can expect BMW to make the software legacy in under 2 years and I won’t be paying that kind of money. So one car less on the list of replacements for the i4, let’s hope the Polestar 4 is good then!
Add to the fact that we can expect BMW to make the software legacy in under 2 years and I won’t be paying that kind of money. So one car less on the list of replacements for the i4, let’s hope the Polestar 4 is good then!
I was looking at the i5M60 as a possible replacement for my i4M50 but the price here in the UK is just way too expensive. Specced one up to my spec at it was just short of £110K which is ridiculous. Spoke to my BMW dealer about this and I got the impression that he had the same opinion.
I find i5 good looking but typical old school bmw fans will not like it…they don’t like anything new anyway. I really like the front grill looks like XM grill style. Not sure what people were excepting in a new design language.
I don't care how it looks from the outside.
But although the rear seat room would increase its versatility for family trips, after a lifetime of sedan driving, I've now become enamored of hatches -- first on VW Arteon, now on A6ar and of course i4. So the add'l cargo capacity is somewhat offset by the reduced cargo versatility of a hatch.
Plus losing range is a drawback, even if only 14 miles on the EPA rating.
Otherwise, might hold out for the A6 etron, especially if some sort of Avant version is coming to North America, although even the regular version is a hatch.
Been over two years since first announced, but no substantive info yet, let along a date.
BTW, if you read the various posts at i5talk.com, that "October 2023" date is confusing since it's both the earliest possible date that allocations will start and the earliest possible date that deliveries will start. Given the i4 M50 backlog, puzzling how i5 M60 can start anyone soon with apparently identical battery and motors (albeit with a slight hp difference).
Meanwhile, the U.K. configurator has now joined the German version is going live:
But although the rear seat room would increase its versatility for family trips, after a lifetime of sedan driving, I've now become enamored of hatches -- first on VW Arteon, now on A6ar and of course i4. So the add'l cargo capacity is somewhat offset by the reduced cargo versatility of a hatch.
Plus losing range is a drawback, even if only 14 miles on the EPA rating.
Now we're talking! Fit in that bigger battery from the i7 into the Touring version and bring it to North America, then I'll place my $1,500 deposit.Waiting to see the Touring version with a bigger battery and hopefully an xDrive40… one can hope
Otherwise, might hold out for the A6 etron, especially if some sort of Avant version is coming to North America, although even the regular version is a hatch.
Been over two years since first announced, but no substantive info yet, let along a date.
BTW, if you read the various posts at i5talk.com, that "October 2023" date is confusing since it's both the earliest possible date that allocations will start and the earliest possible date that deliveries will start. Given the i4 M50 backlog, puzzling how i5 M60 can start anyone soon with apparently identical battery and motors (albeit with a slight hp difference).
Meanwhile, the U.K. configurator has now joined the German version is going live:
200 inches long. This thing is HUGE!
Whoah, good point -- I hadn't noticed that!200 inches long. This thing is HUGE!
That is:
- 5.1" longer than my A6ar
- 3.6" longer than e-tron GT
- 4.2" longer than 4 CT
- 2.3" longer than Model S
- 4.1" longer than Air
I think auto manufacturers have to weigh price, range and weight into the equation when they decide on what type of battery to use.Way to expensive compared to the i4 imo, the specs of the i5 aren’t good enough to warrant it. Over here the i5 M60 starts at almost 60% more than the i4 M50. It’s basically the same battery in both of them as well, would have expected at least a 100 kWh one for that money.
Add to the fact that we can expect BMW to make the software legacy in under 2 years and I won’t be paying that kind of money. So one car less on the list of replacements for the i4, let’s hope the Polestar 4 is good then!
Heavy, blocky, unstreamlined EV Pickup Trucks and SUV are using/planning to use batteries that are 100 kW or larger because otherwise the range wouldn’t be good. But then what do they expect out of heavy vehicles with poor drag coefficients?
The i4 and i5 were not designed for a 100 kW battery. When battery technology improves larger batteries weighing less will be able to keep the weight at a reasonable amount while improving range.
Theoretically speaking: If the i4 had been designed to also offer an optional 100 kW battery, how much more do you think the 100 kW battery would have cost compared to the 83.4 kW standard? How much more do you think it would have weighed?
I wouldn’t have paid 60% more than my i4 for an EV sedan regardless of make.
That’s the interesting part. I got a loaded i4 40e for $67k ish and reduced the price by $7500 with the tax credit eligibility. Seems like a bargain when a similarly spec‘d car would be at least $75k without the tax credit. Rear seat room doesn’t look that much bigger and the hatchback gives more cargo capacity. Am I thinking about this wrong, I feel I got a steal?£97k for the i5 M60....and only 0.1s faster 0-60. Sheesh
Not $10-$12k nicer…Would be nice to have Driver Assist Plus up to 85 mph on the i4...
Is it that much of an upgrade from a price performance standpoint. The only reason to get this is if they bring a touring version stateside.Looking good!
Will be a nice upgrade when the i4 has to go
And if not you always have an iPhone or smartphone to watch Bundesliga or anything else.I want that YouTube feature! I Pray they bring it to the i4. View attachment 29014
For the record Oliver Kahn was the best German goalie ever and Miroslav Klose rocked!
Anyone remember how Klose and the old German National Team slaughtered Brazil?
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