[JToddK]

I wouldn't call this a "myth" per se but it seems like a bit of a reach for EV haters.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/famed-us-mechanic-says-low-maintenance-evs-are-a-facade-exposes-a-dark-secret-191567.html

Yes, EVs are going to go through more tires until tire manufacturers decide to build a better compound that works better with EVs, but how many oil changes are we talking about when compared to the the more frequent requirement of tires? The disposal of tires is an environmental concern, but what about vehicles that leak oil. This article does seem a little short sighted, and I guess I can understand why the "famed U.S. Mechanic" would have a conflict of interest regarding EVs, his livelihood would be mostly eliminated by a large shift to EVs. I think it's safe to say that yes there will be different expenses, but I think we can also agree that the total cost of maintenance will still be lower than ICE counterparts.

Although not really myths, it's the exaggerations and half truths the usually bother me. Yes, you can burn through a lot of rubber with an EV. Most drivers of cars with under 4 sec. 0-60 (ICE or EV) experience the same. When I spoke t a friend who bought an early Model S, his main complaint was that he keeps burning the tires off it. He also mentioned some Dealer Service up-sell, but that's not unique to EVs.

In the article you cited, the "famed US Mechanic" says: "... that some EV manufacturers reported their cars’ tires must be replaced after just 28,000 mi (45,000 km). According to the U.S. Tire Manufacturers Association, cars would normally travel about 60,000 mi (96,560 km) on a set of fresh tires before they’d need replacing." Both halves of that statement don't sit right with me. I don't really expect to get 28,000 miles out of the factory tires on my i4M50. Can't really rotate them for even wear (staggered sizes) and I suspect, with over 500 hp and almost 5,000 lbs of vehicle weight, wear might be a fact of life. If the US Tire Manufacturers believe that "normal" tire wear is 60,000 miles, they must be Fred Flintstone with foot powered cars riding on rocks.

 

[TXZL1I4]

Although not really myths, it's the exaggerations and half truths the usually bother me. Yes, you can burn through a lot of rubber with an EV. Most drivers of cars with under 4 sec. 0-60 (ICE or EV) experience the same. When I spoke t a friend who bought an early Model S, his main complaint was that he keeps burning the tires off it. He also mentioned some Dealer Service up-sell, but that's not unique to EVs.

In the article you cited, the "famed US Mechanic" says: "... that some EV manufacturers reported their cars’ tires must be replaced after just 28,000 mi (45,000 km). According to the U.S. Tire Manufacturers Association, cars would normally travel about 60,000 mi (96,560 km) on a set of fresh tires before they’d need replacing." Both halves of that statement don't sit right with me. I don't really expect to get 28,000 miles out of the factory tires on my i4M50. Can't really rotate them for even wear (staggered sizes) and I suspect, with over 500 hp and almost 5,000 lbs of vehicle weight, wear might be a fact of life. If the US Tire Manufacturers believe that "normal" tire wear is 60,000 miles, they must be Fred Flintstone with foot powered cars riding on rocks.

Yeah, I figure that there will be some tread life reduced even if you feather the throttle. Just given that EVs weigh more, you should lose some tread life. I'll still take this over frequent oil changes, and other maintenance intervals required by ICE vehicles. I guess it's only a matter of time before we see "mechanics" throw a fit like coal workers. I'd say we're in for a lot more half-truths coming down regarding EVs.

 

[TXZL1I4]

I just read somewhere that if you have a flat tire in an EV, most tire shops don't carry EV tires... lol I swear people have so much hate for EVs to the point of ridiculousness.

 

[dudenjen]

speaking of tires, does the i4 have the equivalent of "POSI' traction? Does the motor send power to both rear wheels or is it only one wheel similar to a std ICE differential?

Sorry if this has already been discussed.

 

[slipnslider]

Lol, it's pretty sad how polarizing this topic is. Some of the dumbest things I've heard about EVs and renewable resources in general are things like, "the sun is an unreliable source of energy". My response to that is generally, "you mean to tell me that a source that we LITERALLY set our clocks to is unreliable?". And then there are those that will insist the batteries are hazardous and I have to remind them of all the hazard warnings that you see at gas stations. My favorite has to be the infrastructure argument as they make it sound as if gas stations across the country just sprung up all over as a naturally occurring phenomenon. We at least already have the electric grid spread out all over the country. We just need power stations that aren't being blocked and defaced by derps that hate electric vehicles. I will never understand why there is so much hate towards the electric vehicle. Oh well. Some people will just have to get over it.

It's the conservative brain programming. "Change is bad. Things should stay how they were when I was young." Combined with the dumb person's curse - "I can't imagine things I have't seen yet."

 

[slipnslider]

It‘s the other way around here: pretty much nobody has negative feelings about EVs (and why should they?!), but if you drive an SUV into a hip urban neighbourhood, people will roll their eyes and talk behind your back about how pathetic white old men are…

If you're driving a big gas guzzler for no reason, you're basically saying SCREW YOU to everyone else. It's a sign that you dont know about climate change climate (which means you're not very smart), or don't care about climate change (which means you're pretty selfish). Granted some people need gas guzzling vehicles for specific use cases, but 90% of them could be replaced by something much less stupid and selfish.

 

[Squirrel1974]

Yeah she’s fine with the range. We don’t do a ton of road trips. I’m also getting the eDrive40 in no small part due to the range bonus since I have to take long trips for work once or twice a month and the car just seems like such a pleasure for long trips. I told the CA “you’ll think I’m crazy but the two things that sold me on i4 vs polestar was cabin noise and seat comfort”. The polestar just has this odd center console which intrudes into my leg space. Call me a manspreader but whatever. XD

I had the same problem with the Polestar 2. And I’m a woman. 😂

Well, that and the road noise and the operating system. And the fact that of 3 cars that went out, the dealer put me in the base model and not the super-whizzy one. 😂

 

[CubanoConBMW]

I had the same problem with the Polestar 2. And I’m a woman. 😂

Well, that and the road noise and the operating system. And the fact that of 3 cars that went out, the dealer put me in the base model and not the super-whizzy one. 😂

Shame. A woman’s money is green too, last I checked.

Google does not have the best reputation for supporting their products long term so your concern is 100% valid. It’s a running joke among me and my friends (we’re in tech).

 

[Magicrat]

Google does not have the best reputation for supporting their products long term so your concern is 100% valid. It’s a running joke among me and my friends (we’re in tech).

I'm heavily invested in the Google exosphere (Google phone, Gmail, Chromebook, Nest, etc) and have to deal with them ending support for things..........So I know the pain, LOL.

 

[Masque]

That article was adorable. 28,000 miles and $1,200/set? That’s just normal BMW life! I expect 10k out of my rear tires; anything else is a bonus. Was like this on my 335d, 330e, and i3. The fronts on the i3 actually made it 30k. Pleasant!

 

[TXZL1I4]

That article was adorable. 28,000 miles and $1,200/set? That’s just normal BMW life! I expect 10k out of my rear tires; anything else is a bonus. Was like this on my 335d, 330e, and i3. The fronts on the i3 actually made it 30k. Pleasant!

The "famous mechanic" story? Yeah, I know I know "click-bait", but I figure we need to discuss those falsehoods just like all the others out there. I've only managed about 4K miles on my Leaf since December and I'm thinking I may need to go ahead and get the tires rotated just for the fact that I constantly spin the front. Twelve-hundred actually seems reasonable for a full set of decent tires given that the PS4s I bought for my SS cost me at least $1500 and that was with a "discount". I think I was only expecting about 12,000 miles on the set.

I still think given how much all other maintenance costs for an ICE stack up, there's still a slight edge for EVs even if tire costs are a little more. Of course, my other reason for going EV is I'm sick of the entities that provide us with fossil fuels. The straw for me was seeing how they were poisoning the well of information (like the environment) on climate change. I'd have more respect for them if they came out and just said that they wanted to protect their financial interests. Instead they flooded the discussion with pseudo-science that their goons pushed at every chance.

 

[SpikeMike]

The "famous mechanic" story? Yeah, I know I know "click-bait", but I figure we need to discuss those falsehoods just like all the others out there. I've only managed about 4K miles on my Leaf since December and I'm thinking I may need to go ahead and get the tires rotated just for the fact that I constantly spin the front. Twelve-hundred actually seems reasonable for a full set of decent tires given that the PS4s I bought for my SS cost me at least $1500 and that was with a "discount". I think I was only expecting about 12,000 miles on the set.

I still think given how much all other maintenance costs for an ICE stack up, there's still a slight edge for EVs even if tire costs are a little more. Of course, my other reason for going EV is I'm sick of the entities that provide us with fossil fuels. The straw for me was seeing how they were poisoning the well of information (like the environment) on climate change. I'd have more respect for them if they came out and just said that they wanted to protect their financial interests. Instead they flooded the discussion with pseudo-science that their goons pushed at every chance.

My friend owns a highly modified AMG Mercedes that I drive in some events. I'm always trying to conserve or extend the life of the tires. My friend wants me to get more aggressive so he tells me, "They make new tires every day."
Of course, this is fine for a track car. But my everyday driver is a lot different.

Anyway, here's a doozy that I've seen on social media lately,
"You are being told to lower your AC usage on hot days to prevent overwhelming the existing electric grid while simultaneously being told to trade in your gas cars for electric vehicles."

 

[CubanoConBMW]

Anyway, here's a doozy that I've seen on social media lately,
"You are being told to lower your AC usage on hot days to prevent overwhelming the existing electric grid while simultaneously being told to trade in your gas cars for electric vehicles."

It’s like you have to assume people don’t have two brain cells to rub together to write these.

 

[TXZL1I4]

My friend owns a highly modified AMG Mercedes that I drive in some events. I'm always trying to conserve or extend the life of the tires. My friend wants me to get more aggressive so he tells me, "They make new tires every day."
Of course, this is fine for a track car. But my everyday driver is a lot different.

Anyway, here's a doozy that I've seen on social media lately,
"You are being told to lower your AC usage on hot days to prevent overwhelming the existing electric grid while simultaneously being told to trade in your gas cars for electric vehicles."

And it's funny because some people really do want to shore up our infrastructure which includes our energy grid, but there are those that are still in the pocket of big gas/oil that don't want to shore it up because I suspect they actually don't want EVs to be successful. Hell, I would love to see our infrastructure hardened if anything because there have been several reports of how vulnerable our systems are currently to cyber attacks. It's really sad to see people willfully ok with our country in a weakened state, even more so when they are elected officials.