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After driving my Model 3 mostly happily for 7 years (I had one of the first ones in NJ), it was time to wash my hands of the company and try something different, and I wanted to get it done before the uncertainty of the expiration of the tax credit. The i4 is my first BMW and actually my first German car. I got it in Skyscraper Gray, Premium, Driver Assist Pro.

TL;DR: it is a very nice car with vast room for improvement (much of which I am hoping to see in the Neue Klasse cars). It has different virtues vs. the Model 3.

Pluses:
Ride and interior quality are vastly better than the Model 3. Very happy to have CarPlay and a HUD (although it doesn't play well with my polarized sunglasses... I cranked brightness up all the way and it's just barely OK in bright sun). I like having a hatch, and the up/down motors are buttery smooth and quiet.

I like having plain old manually operated vents. The touchscreen-controlled vents in the Model 3 never ceased to annoy me, even though I didn't need to fiddle with them too often.

There are fewer of these on the road (although lots of BMWs overall) which I appreciate. There are so many Teslas around here that it really was getting tiresome, and the limited color selection means I saw so many nearly identical cars to mine all the time.

Minuses:
The Tesla seats were way more comfortable. I am slowly getting used to the i4 seats but they're really not great for me. I didn't really notice this when taking test drives but I do now on pretty much every drive. Interior space efficiency is hilariously poor compared to the Model 3, in every possible way... frunk or lack there, under-floor trunk storage, rear seat space, front headroom (thanks to the sunroof), center console storage. It will be OK for me but no doubt this is a less practical vehicle overall than the Tesla, other than the hatch which is certainly nice to have.

Lack of NACS connector and/or access to the SuperCharger network is not great. I am hoping to see the SuperCharger situation worked out sometime soon.

Driving Assist vs. Tesla FSD:
I am well aware of the limitations and issues of Tesla FSD. However, I still found it to be very very nice to have and use on a daily basis. The BMW Driver Assist is adequate overall: very nice in some ways, but excessively complicated in others. The number of buttons on the left side of the steering wheel to control it is absurd. Flicking in and out of different modes with multiple icon indicators on the screen and HUD when driving on the highway vs. sitting in stop and go traffic is confusing and distracting.

Auto lane change works well. I appreciate that if you override the steering temporarily, it will resume assist mode automatically after a few seconds.

Overall I think it is well worth the asking price, and good enough that I will be using it every day on my commute.

Miscellany:
Beyond just the driver assist, there is a fairly uniform excessive complexity of controls, which I can certainly get used to but could (and should) be improved. Having to click the drive mode switch twice every time to go to B mode is not tragic but it is annoying. The way the car turns on half-way when you enter it still confuses me... sometimes I forget that it's not all the way on and have to hit the start button. I still can't figure out when it automatically activates the parking brake. The location and operation of the wireless phone charger is dumb and cooks my phone, so I just use it as a cubby to store my sunglass clips.

TBD:
Overall ownership experience has yet to be determined. The Tesla was actually quite good for me, with the majority of service handled by the mobile techs. And it didn't really need much service; I don't think I had any for the last two years of ownership.

That's about it so far. I have made peace with the front end appearance, and overall it is a good-looking car. I am driving it happily and glad to be done with Tesla.
 
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Interesting - It would be even more interesting to hear what you think about the i4 after one more month - and some more miles. Regarding seats, they might feel uncomfortable at first, try to make a longer drive, I did a 9000KM ten days trip to test - and my back had never been better. For a short period, I had a BMW iX together with the i4. The iX seats feels soft and good, but after a few hours, I had to have 30 minutes in the i4 to fix my back.

However, Please don't call your old Tesla, a M3. I and a lot of more people on this forum have dreamed about a BMW M3 for many years - and all we got was an i4M50.

Tesla using the M3 name - another example of Tesla just making bad imitations of other (German, Mercedes, BMW) cars.



The difference between German cars and other cars ?
You see it first at +200KMH at the Autobahn in Germany.
 
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However, Please don't call your old Tesla, a M3. I and a lot of more people on this forum have dreamed about a BMW M3 for many years - and all we got was an i4M50.
Ha ha, fair enough. It's common shorthand on Tesla forums, but I understand what you're saying. I fixed it in my original post.

Regarding the seats: the i4 seats can never be better than the Model 3 seats for me because I could sit in the Model 3 for anywhere from 1 minute to several hours in 100.00% comfort. If I can simply get to the point on the i4 where I don't have to think about it every time I get in the car I'll be satisfied.

I have no doubt that seat comfort is highly person-dependent, I can only report my own experience.
 
#6 ·
I’m coming from a model 3 as well. For me personally, I prefer the contiguous space of the lift back vs the frunk, trunk and cabin. Can fit about 10 mulch bags in before even folding the seats for example. I haven’t really missed the frunk yet.

It’s worked really well in my small family, for larger loads I tend to go with my wife’s rav4 anyway.
 
#7 ·
I think the i4 seats are firm and comfortable.
I test drove a 2020 dual motor model 3 and the poor handling around a corner was a deal breaker, but I also hated the seats in the model 3. In the i4 you can adjust how far forward or backward the head rest is. You can also adjust how high it is. In the 2020 model 3 you can’t adjust it and it’s so far forward that every time you accelerate fast it punches you in the back of the head. I think Musk purposely did this because when drivers and passengers were punched in the back of the head by the headrests every time they accelerated they would think they were accelerating faster than they actually were…
 
#8 ·
I remember driving a model 3 and had the same comparison points. A few things kept me away from it: they are everywhere, my wife and I both have a fondness for BMW, glass roofs with no shades, and at the time no Tesla service center nearby.

I gave up all wheel drive, faster acceleration, and much better rear seating. But love the hatch, the family reports the e40 is plenty fast, and there's only a few of us i4 owners around. That being said, much has changed in 3 years and if was in the market now I'd cross shop them again.
 
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A former TM3 owner with a new i4 joins an i4 forum full of former TM3 owners, and tells us how the cars are different.

I'm joking, of course. All of your comparisons were based on personal feelings about the well-known differences. The number of i4 owners that found the Tesla preferable overall, and went back to a Model 3 has been vanishingly small, but certainly not zero.

I kept my TM3 all of 5 months, I disliked it so much, and even if Melon Usk prices the never forthcoming roadster at 50k, I would still not switch back. I find the T shortcomings vastly outnumber the few admitted advantages.

I found Autopilot so terrifyingly bad that I refused to spec DAPP on my i4, so I cannot comment on that, or the HUD. Without those, I find the customizability of the i4 driving experience welcome, and not overwhelmingly complicated. I just kept the OM handy when making settings adjustments for the first year, and haven't found any need to fiddle with things since.

Low tech air vents and full wiper control on stalk, for the win. I can't even imagine how frustrating having turn signals assigned to steering wheel buttons must be.
 
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differences. The number of i4 owners that found the Tesla preferable overall, and went back to a Model 3 has been vanishingly small, but certainly not zero.
At this point it seems unlikely I would ever go back to Tesla, which has nothing to do with the cars. What will be more interesting (to me at least) is whether I'll stick with BMW when this lease concludes. The Neue Klasse cars seem to have a lot of promise, but there should be some excellent additional competition by then as well.

Low tech air vents and full wiper control on stalk, for the win. I can't even imagine how frustrating having turn signals assigned to steering wheel buttons must be.
You can "get used to" anything, but that doesn't make it good. Given that they put back the signal stalk on the refreshed Y, I assume they'll eventually make that change to the 3 as well.

Full wiper controls on the stalk is definitely welcome, although the auto wipers eventually (after years) because reliable enough on the 3 that I didn't have to fiddle with them too often.
 
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Re the seats. I have to say I agree that they are not the most comfortable. It seems to be a German thing. They like well shaped lightly padded concrete.
They hold you in position well, and while actively driving are perfectly comfortable, but I find, if stuck in slow stop-and-go traffic my boney arse complains.
My last car was a Merc (W205 AMG line) and I found the seats better, but still not great in slow traffic. Prior to that I always had Japanese cars. Apart from Honda (no lumbar support) they were always softer and more comfortable, but lacked the side bolstering.