After viewing the video on the Ford adapter made by Lectron, I’m thinking of getting the Ford adapter when BMW gets Supercharger access. It looks like Ford beefed up the Lectron design and made it better. I’ll wait to see what BMW has to offer, but right now Ford looks to be the best adapter available.

 

Without reading this entire thread has BMW made any statements regarding what adapter they may endorse? I ask because if we were to use one that they do not approve then one might have a claims issue should the worst possible thing happen while attempting to charge.

FWIW, as an owner of a Lightning I am very recently in possession of one of the updated Ford branded Lectron adapters. It is very similar in quality appearance to the A2Z Typhoon Pro adapter that I purchased while waiting ten months for Ford to “rush” me my free adapter. Note that this A2Z adapter has been replaced for free by them* after some real world testing yielded minor safety concerns.

* and they never asked for the original one back so now I actually have three NACS to CCS adapters, one of which should probably be destroyed.

 

I, for one, am hoping that the buttplug-shaped renders are bogus and the real deal adapter isn't so ridiculous or oversized. The Lectron adapter is already heavy AF even though it looks to be half the size.

 

I am sticking with my Lectron prediction. I am impressed with quality of Ford J3400/CCS1 adapter. Lectron has also spooled up mfg. Ford delivered a cumulative 60,000 in Jan since it announced adapters and then added another 80,000 in Feb.

 

I am not excited anymore about BMW getting access to the Tesla network in the US. Normally I would be one of the first to try to get an adapter. Now I am not even planning on getting one. One of the reasons is the fact that the non Tesla providers are getting better and better. The new non Electrify America providers like GM are pretty good. The other reasons are not suitable for this forum.

 

I would agree with this. The less money I can give Elon the better

 

Understand. But since my daughter will be starting college this fall and be ~225 miles away from SF in SLO, the CA highway 101 EA and most other DCFC sites are 4 stalls or less. This is just not enough chargers per site in 2025 and since they are designed for highway travel, EA won't apply the 85% SoC limit rule (wish they would) to accommodate cars with small battery packs. Granted, I can make the trip one way easily without DCFC, and most likely be able to get L2 overnight if I stay at a hotel, but I want to have more options, especially if I decide to visit Santa Barbara and return to SLO for the night. I don't get the sense any other network is going to add sites with as many chargers as Tesla. I hope access comes in May or June.

 

I've used the NACS in PA and central NY, they finally have them in Maryland along the I-95 corridor. I have a NACS to CSS1 adapter so I'll give it a try just for fun, especially since they are in Wawa and RoFo parking lots. It will definitely help on weekend drives, but these tesla lots are packed during the normal commuting hours.

 

And it looks like Walmart is going to be rolling out chargers that can charge 2 cars at once but one cord is CCS and one is NACS so the adapter will be useful beyond Tesla chargers.

 

Oh great.

Do I want to give my money to Musk or the Walton family?


Haven't given Walmart a penny or set foot in one of their stores in over a decade now, I think.

 

Oh great.

Do I want to give my money to Musk or the Walton family?


Haven't given Walmart a penny or set foot in one of their stores in over a decade now, I think.

Meh, looks like EV charging will be a loss leader with the hopes you buy from the store while charging.

 

Sadly unless you are riding a bicycle or charging off home solar, it seems you will have to pay some oligarch for fuel or energy.

 

Not always. My city has a utility. Much cheaper than PG& E.

 

still crickets from BMW/Tesla about SC access.... any bets on whether it'll be 2026 before we see access?

 

iX3 introduction on 05Sept (this Friday). Maybe we’ll get some news.

 

[Looks at calendar]

Still not Octember 43rd, so not any delay past the announcement date AFAIK yet.

Weasel words are all we ever got from BMW, so until 2026, its not "late."

 

[Looks at calendar]

Still not Octember 43rd, so not any delay past the announcement date AFAIK yet.

Weasel words are all we ever got from BMW, so until 2026, its not "late."

Octember?

43rd?

Is that October or November?

You must have been typing on your phone.

 

The thread title on the topic at the Taycan forum was recently changed to:
"VW Group EVs to Get Tesla Supercharger Access Sometime this Decade"

 

9/5/25, Porsche just announced Supercharger access...

Dedicated to choice: Porsche owners can now access the Tesla Supercharger network

Porsche owners gain access to 23,500 Tesla Superchargers in North America with new NACS adapter, making EV charging easier and more convenient.

newsroom.porsche.com

Embarrassing that BMW still can't figure it out. Especially with all the hype about the ix3.

 

We have no idea whether the BMW access delay is on account of BMW, Tesla, or something about the relationship between the two.

Although skip to 38:24 here if you want to add insult to injury:

 

According to BMW NA, and the iX3 info that launched this morning, Supercharger access is coming at the end of 2025, and the 2027 iX3, to be released in the US in the summer 2026, will have a NACS port. So, they're kinda committed at this point, I think.

https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/x-series/ix3/bmw-ix3.html

 

Note that Porsche is "soft launching", which means that initially the Tesla app will be required to charge. That likely got them going faster. Hopefully BMW is not trying to integrate into the MyBMW app right away.

Dedicated to choice: Porsche owners can now access the Tesla Supercharger network

Porsche owners gain access to 23,500 Tesla Superchargers in North America with new NACS adapter, making EV charging easier and more convenient.

newsroom.porsche.com

 

I emailed 'contact us' on the BMW Canada website yesterday about the Tesla Supercharger access..... will let you know their response if it comes.

Maybe others waiting for access should do the same.....

Canada customer.service@bmw.ca
USA Contact us

 

I emailed 'contact us' on the BMW Canada website yesterday about the Tesla Supercharger access..... will let you know their response if it comes.

Maybe others waiting for access should do the same.....

Canada customer.service@bmw.ca
USA Contact us

I can't imagine a perceived lack of interest is the cause of the delay.

 

The NEVI program has been running since 2021. In 2022, when I was purchasing the i4, it appeared there will be more than EA and Tesla across the USA. I would have never predicted a few years later the Governor of Florida declining to use any NEVI money. I understand disagreeing with something, but leaving money on the table is crazy. Especially with a lot of Republicans in this state driving EVs. I also would never have guessed in a million years the state of Florida retaliating against Disney....one of the largest employers in the state and bringing millions of tourists to Florida. Enough politics, and shouldn't have brought it up but it shows things can change quickly. I hope you are right about IONNA and MB but there have been a lot of charging proposals that never materialized. MB isn’t selling a lot of EVs in my neck of the woods, I can see them quickly changing plans too.

Also you cannot always blame XYZ company for lack of chargers. My county of 1/2 millon people just got their first Tesla Supercharger. My city was listed on Tesla's survey site for 2 years with people complaining they cannot vacation in Florida with their EV. Tesla bought land and installed chargers. Now waiting for over 5 months for city to approve. It is clear the city leaders do not want EVs. In the meantime multiple new gas stations have opened.

 

I would describe the NEVI program as more like staggering, limping, etc. rather than running.
Since Congress passed it almost four years ago, well, let's take EV-friendly MA from this list:

National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) Awards Dashboard

The NEVI Awards Dashboard tracks electric vehicle (EV) charging sites funded by states through the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program. The State NEVI Action tab shows progress states have made in implementing the NEVI program. The Award Data page provides a comprehensive...

evstates.org

Feds have obligated $50m so far to MA.
Not a single site appears to have been selected.

I tried to confirm this with the the MassDOT Chief COMMUNICATIONS Officer:
Amelia Aubourg - MassDOT | LinkedIn
… who is an
"Author, strategic communicator & leader with over twenty years of experience adept in helping shape brands to elevate, enhance and empower their business in valued gifts of time, talent and treasure”
.... and who specifically in this role:
"I am responsible for overseeing and directing a coordinated department that ensures that all communications to the public concerning MassDOT transportation projects are represented and received in a positive manner. I ensure that the public is informed of on-going projects and their potential impact to the affected communities.”

I received a couple nonsubstantive "I'll get back to you" responses but mainly I just get ghosted.

I'm not sure which is worse: that our federal taxpayer dollars authorized for MA NEVI stations are still sitting in the U.S. Treasury, or that our state taxpayer dollars are paying this woman's salary, which was $168,185.30 in 2023, so add on even more by 2025 for cost of living and her, ah, exceptional job performance.

As for roadblocks to private initiatives, often the problem can be the utility.
Although when I contacted the utility about this station:

Himalayan and Native Views | Charlemont, MA | EV Station

Find EV charging stations with PlugShare, the most complete map of electric vehicle charging stations in the world!Charging tips reviews and photos from the EV community.

www.plugshare.com

... that was completed over a year ago except for being energized, the staffer I talked on the phone with for a long time was intrigued, but he hasn't been able to resolve the mystery.

 

Maybe your brother-in-law warned MS Auburg about this guy.

😉

 

That letter from BMW Canada translates from Canadian to American as: Go away and bother someone else.

 

At least it supports our firm belief that BMW dealers are The Authority on all trustworthy information related to EVs.

Right?

 

As of last night, the BMW website still says that Supercharger access is coming later in 2025.

 

I suspect it has been saying that for nearly a year.

 

We haven't even entered the last quarter of 2025. There's still plenty of later to go.

An Xmas announcement, then live on 30 December would still be late 2025.

I've still got my money on Octember 43rd, though.