I wouldn't be going to Tucker Carlson for anything but reaffirming your own internal opinions. In legal proceedings in the past he's argued he's not a journalist and only an entertainer. So yeah didn't even click the link.

 

Don’t be so narrow minded. Watch it. He makes a good point about CA. They want to go full electric for cars yet they have rolling blackouts because they cannot generate enough power.

 

A broke clock can be right 2 times a day, but that doesn't mean I use that clock to manage my time. The dude has zero credibility with me. I am interested in what the future infrastructure will look like so find some articles with legit research and I'm happy to read up.

Just an fyi
Summary Quote
When Tucker Carlson says on his show “[r]emember the facts of the story; these are undisputed" no reasonable person would believe that he was about to state facts. At least, that was Tucker Carlson's own argument in defending himself from a libel suit.

Article

Tucker Carlson Successfully Argues Nobody Really Believes Tucker Carlson Is Reporting Facts - FindLaw

Tucker Carlson has a point.

www.findlaw.com

 

I wouldn't suggest taking anything Tucker Carlson says about California seriously or any topic for that matter.

 

Has Carlson / Fox news gone on these rants about EV's in the last few weeks? I wonder because I talked to my father 2 nights ago for the first time since he got back from a long trip in Europe. I told him how I snagged a 40 before the IRA passed. He then went on a rant on how there is no way our country is ready to go full EV and how 2035 in CA will not work. Since he retired 2 years ago he's glued to Fox News and most of what he talks about are narratives from the network. I'm not going into politics here, just a fact, I have family members that are glued to news from the other side as well.

I personally think 2035 is ambitious but it's better to set aggressive goals and not meet some of them than to simply say "It can't be done therefore it shouldn't be done".

 

Tucker Carlson is the benchmark for high quality professional journalism and by the way I have some lovely ocean front property on a beautiful white sandy beach in gorgeous North Dakota for sale real cheap. Any offers?

 

I don‘t know that guy or anything about him and if I did, I would probably dislike him very much. That being said, experts in Germany are very sceptical about how we are going to distribute all the electricity to all the BEVs once everyone adapts. The production of the energy is not the big problem, but the distribution. To be more specific, the companies managing the grid simply do not have enough manpower to grow very fast. If you try to make an appointment to connect a new industrial complex to the power grid, they will tell you 2024. Of course, I don’t know if you have similar issues in the US.

 

Tucker Carlson is a clown

 

who works for Fox-a-Ganda.

Much electricity these days is still generated by coal.
...
He sheepishly replied "coal." So much for green energy!

But now they are all using "Clean Coal", with zero CO2 emissions. Right? I think I read that somewhere a couple years back - or was it in a Superbowl ad? I've slept since then but I know Fox-A-Ganda solved that issue.

Last time I checked into it, electric power coming from coal was about 20% across the US (current search shows 21.8%). A yuuuge number of those historically coal-fired plants changed to CNG a long time ago.

 

I personally think that our Governor's plan may be a little agressive but something needs to be done to battle climate change. If you live here and have seen some our our lakes and resevoirs, you know that we need rain and need it in the worse way. Why do folks keep worrying about our state? Worry about your own state who we are probably supporting anyway. If you live here in CA and don't like it then I suggest moving to Mississippi, Alabama or Texas and when you have castastropic events just remember that CA's tax dollars are helping your state recover. As Forest Gump says: That's all I have to say about that.

 

Have you or anyone you know experienced these planned rolling blackouts living in CA?

 

This won't end well...

 

Well, if California has to use oil to generate electricity, that is still far more efficient than refining the oil into gasoline then burning that in ICE engines.

While Carson entertains us by ranting how anyone who tries to solve a problem is stupidly creating others, he disingenuously brushes off potential solutions.

The invention of agriculture 8,000 years ago created many thousands of problems, most of which have been solved, without any help from all the little Tuckers along the way.

 

Much electricity these days is still generated by coal.
I remember seeing a news segment touting a GM electric car (I think!). And they were interviewing someone from the Electric Company in that area and he was asked how does his company create electricity.
He sheepishly replied "coal." So much for green energy!

 

If only there were a giant ball of fire in the sky and we could harvest its energy by putting some stuff on our roofs.

 

Some weeks ago there was a heated discussion in a German car forum in the course of which someone wanted to defend his position with the statement "it's not as if energy just falls from the sky". To which the other replied: "Um, that's pretty much the concept of photovoltaics". I really enjoyed that…

 

My guess is Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson drives a Tesla. He is a very rich man, as he has inherited millions and just tries to convince his viewers that others are wrong and he is somehow right with zero facts or though put into it. True snake oil salesman. There are plenty of things to discuss on the EV proliferation but having Tucker in the mix is pointless as he not only doesn't care but doesn't want to be educated either.

 

So happy to see that at this point most on this thread thinks Carlson is a joke. Having said that. Can we please get back to our i4 basic, Msports and M50's and when our cars will arrive or for those who are lucky to have them already, let's see photos and reviews and helpful information.

 

It's funny how Tucker always likes to bring up California's rolling black outs when ever he can but he never mentions Texas' power problems. I wonder why that is? 🤔

Also the rolling black outs would have very little to do with EVs. They have rolling black outs during heat waves when the peak usage during the day strains the grid. EVs would primarily be plugged in at night when the grid has the capacity to support them.

 

It's funny how Tucker always likes to bring up California's rolling black outs when ever he can but he never mentions Texas' power problems. I wonder why that is? 🤔

He has talked about Texas’ power problems quite a bit, actually.

Tucker goes off on rolling blackouts: 'Running out of energy in Texas is like starving to death at the grocery store'

Green energy technology is not advanced enough to replace more reliable fossil fuels and thus will create more blackouts in the future

www.bizpacreview.com

 

Yea news entertainment can be entertaining... but that's all it is.

All seriousness we should be fighting all the misinformation and misplaced fear surrounding nuclear power.

5 Fast Facts about Spent Nuclear Fuel

Get up to speed with these five fast facts about spent nuclear fuel.

www.energy.gov

 

Without hysteria (three mile island, chernobyl) there are many good solutions.

I understand that Finland had inaugurated a long term interment site for their nuclear waste.

 

last time i checked, 2035 is still 12 years away - what was your cell phone like 12 years ago? what was your laptop/computer like 12 years ago - how much was a flat screen TV 12 years ago (or how flat was the flatscreen 12 yeras ago) ? I can go on - i have enough faith in humanity that we will have some kind of advancement in 12 years time. I assume that we will not live of the same grid, same transmission, same infrastructure in 12 years...

 

I would not listen to anything Tucker Carlson says or most of his associates. All car manufacturers are committed to only making EVs in the future so there will be plenty of charging stations. With Tesla now opening their charging stations to non-Tesla vehicles there will be plenty.

 

Fake news, don't bother watching anything on Fox News...

 

Someone remind Brian Stelter about what news is.

 

Tucker should have retired to become a tomato farmer in some remote village after taking that taking that on air shellacking from Jon Stewart.

 

While I would imagine there is some truth to whether or not our grids are prepared, I think that is challenge we as a country need to face and ultimately fix. Tuck's entire job is to create a false narrative against anything remotely seen as progressive and create fake rage for his viewers. Nothing meaningful to see here.

 

What's the false narrative you are describing if you say there is some truth to the grids not being prepared?
I didn't start this thread to start a political war. I was just questioning what will happen if all these EV's come on line and some countries in Europe as well as CA are having issues with power now.

 

I'm all for having a thoughtful discussion about the grid, our infrastructure (or lack of) and ideas for strengthening and improving them. It's not just California, see the threads about folks on this forum in states with like 2 fast chargers [exaggerating of course]. It's a global issue, beyond the US.

For EV adoption to be remotely meaningful, a diversity of base load source power is needed. Clean coal could be part of that mix, and nuclear as well.

The next major step is not source, though, it's how we consume and with what level of efficiency. I remember in the 90s, California began a major campaign on water fixtures and appliances, gradually reducing the GPM of toilets and faucets. You better believe that along with ban on ICE, that there's going to be a slate of new regs that say your AC can consume a max of 0.5 to 1.0kW and therefore necessitating a brand new category of affordable heat pump options [which are going to be offset by the new IRA legislation]. Some of that was rolled out with CA Title 24 regs regarding building practices.

It's going to take this and a lot of other policies to move the needle. If only we as a human race acted on this as if our way of living [enjoying forums and cars, especially] depended on it. If only...

As open-minded as I am, credibility of source material or opinions in this case, is number 1 on the list to vet and unfortunately said person referenced is on the do not trust column for many, along with a long list of politicians, activists, influencers, and some journalists - from all across the spectrum. The name alone is triggering and as expected you get gut level reactions. That's the real issue here...credibility. Lose it once, twice, maybe thrice and it'll take the moving of mountains to get it back.

I trust the majority of the people here to self moderate, so please continue the convo as long as it's respectful [not saying it hasn't been].

 

It's an easy mistake to think of the power grid capacity as a constant number. Every grid, regardless of where you live, has peaks of consumption, and low usage periods (usually in the dead of night).
As much as increasing the peak capacity is an issue, there are methods of reducing the impact of charging EV's that can be taken relatively easily. For example, off peak charging incentives (eg. a lower electricity tariff at night) and localised generation (eg. Solar Panels for public charging) are two examples that are being utilised already.

For example, in the UK, one energy supplier will actually pay you when energy supply exceeds demand (which can happen at night due to the large volume of off-shore wind farms). So you can simply set your home charger to only charge during these off peak times, when the prices fall and in some cases actually pay you to charge (source: Introducing Agile Octopus: The 100% green smart tariff with Plunge Pricing)

It's also worth bearing in mind that ICE vehicles aren't immune to consumption demand issues. Just a couple of months ago we saw fuel prices sky rocket with panic buying and huge queues just to fill up.

 

This is a good read from 2020 CA rolling blackouts root cause analysis. http://www.caiso.com/Documents/Final-Root-Cause-Analysis-Mid-August-2020-Extreme-Heat-Wave.pdf
Per this report it seems like there is a supply issue during peak hours. It is not just because the grid cannot handle it. As California transitions to clean energy they are not able to supply enough during peak hours.
***
Section 4 lists the root causes:
this Final Root Cause Analysis (Final Analysis) identified the following challenges that all contributed to the emergency:
• The climate change-induced extreme heat wave across the western United States resulted in the demand for electricity exceeding the existing electricity resource adequacy (RA) and planning targets.
• In transitioning to a reliable, clean, and affordable resource mix, resource planning targets have not kept pace to ensure sufficient resources that can be relied upon to meet demand in the early evening hours. This made balancing demand and supply more challenging during the extreme heat wave.
• Some practices in the day-ahead energy market exacerbated the supply challenges under highly stressed conditions.

 

• In transitioning to a reliable, clean, and affordable resource mix, resource planning targets have not kept pace to ensure sufficient resources that can be relied upon to meet demand in the early evening hours. This made balancing demand and supply more challenging during the extreme heat wave.
• Some practices in the day-ahead energy market exacerbated the supply challenges under highly stressed conditions.

There you go. Unfortunately, as much as Gavin would like you to believe, “green energy resources” obviously cannot carry the energy burden at this moment. Did not one of California’s grid operators just announce to avoid using large appliances and avoid charging your electric cars over the coming holiday weekend? Just what I would want to hear if I just purchased an electric car there.

 

He has a point. CA can not handle the grid now how they hell they going to handle it later? It has been this way for years in that state and nothing has changed. I suspect it will not change in the next 10 years either. Terribly ran state.

 

Well in my states we keep the lights on! LOL