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I just had my first CarPlay GPS issue since the software upgrade. Map dislocated my car as I was starting car, but once I was driving it self-corrected without my doing anything. Just an observation to throw out there.
 
I have not had the problem of mislocation even once since the update. And I always use CarPlay with Waze. That being said, I have had 2 or 3 instances where the screen was blank and the iDrive itself needed reset. Hard to know what to relate that too. Also, most of my issues were exemplified in cold and wet conditions (this problem may be specific to me as others don't seem to report that correlation) and its been a hot and dry summer since the update. If I get through November and December (when the issue became rampant last year) I will be more convinced the fix is a true fix.
 
I can say with 100% certainty that, for me at least, the most recent software update has fixed the problem SO FAR. Again, I can only go from personal experience and others had different reports, but cold weather was often a factor in CarPlay misfire, so I wont be 100% convinced until the winter and cold weather returns.
 
I have not had the old CarPlay issue at all since .53 and I used to get it frequently (although I always thought my incidence correlated with cold and/or wet weather). Regardless, my record for that old problem has been perfect since the upgrade.

however, I had a new CarPlay situation last Saturday and I am curious if it will repeat. My CarPlay screen went all black. I touched the screen and the phone magically (or randomly) called my wife. I could not get the black to disappear unless I came out of CarPlay. I was planning to reset the iDrive at my destination, but after about 10 minutes things came back to normal. I am paying attention to see if this recurs.
 
I am still on 11/2022. And without devoting a couple of hours to the dealer, I am unable to get update. Very frustrating. They really should have a way for those who want it to force OTA update (or get the app to do it, like normal software downloading over internet).
 
Still can't get OTA. I did speak to dealer and they suggested I bring it in and get a loaner. By the time loaner available, hopefully OTA comes through. I really dont understand why BMW releases OTA updates in group batches
 
@pgershon your dealer will install an update in an hour? If I need a software update done at the dealer, usually have to leave the car there for two days
That was my best case estimate. In theory, my dealer will pick up my car and bring it back to me, but that requires scheduling a month ahead of time and pretty much not offered Memorial Day to Labor Day. I have an i5 on order too so the dealer wants to please me. But its not practical for this fix.
 
I remain stuck at 11/2022 update. Just got the error today for the first time in almost a month. Car was on in parking garage before I brought any iPhone to it. I wonder if related. Tried to get to service center on way home but was not willing to wait an hour for update.

I wish there was a way to force the OTA update.
 
Still no update for me. Is there a way to force system to send you the latest update or must I wait until my (arbitrary) turn or else go to dealer?
 
I know it's random. I have read it and I believe it. But in my case at least, the randomness correlates strongly with the weather. Since temps have been over 50 degrees virtually all the time, I have stopped getting the bug. Now I know its 70 today and my GPS will probably fail because I typed this, but my experience has correlated well (not perfectly) with outdoor temperature.
 
I really don’t understand how these OTA updates work. I just today received update 11.2022.63. Had not been offered before.
 
Interesting experience today - I had gone multiple drives without any issues but this morning about 2 minutes into the drive my GPS position was shifted off the map mid-drive. I disconnected my WiFi/connection to CarPlay, turned on airplane mode, and then turned it off so the CarPlay connection would reset. All of this while the Waze screen stayed present on my display. The screen went black, then came back with the proper positioning and resumed my route. About 15 seconds later, GPS went off course again. I repeated the process a second time. Once again after reset, GPS went back to proper location for 15 seconds or so, then went off course again. Then I stopped car for a 30 minute appointment. When I returned, GPS worked perfectly. Only other thing I can think of different from most of my drives is that it was colder this AM (35 degrees when I started car, as opposed to the 40s and 50s on recent drives). Possible that cold temperatures affect the GPS tracking issue more. Consistent with my experience of worse performance starting in November.
 
Because there are questions about how common the GPS problem is, I'm posting my experience: i4 delivery 12/31/2022, I have about 3-4 episodes. Each time the Apple CarPlay Map starts out accurate and after about 10-15 minutes, typically soon after I reach highway speed, the location abruptly becomes inaccurate by a couple of hundred feet to one side of the road, not in front or behind, and then tracks along with a steady offset from the true location. Each time, the built in BMW nav is accurate. These episodes occur out in the countryside, flat land, no tall buildings, nothing to interfere with GPS.
It's worth responding because my experiences are 100% the opposite. When I have the GPS issue, I get it right at the start of my drive and usually it goes away within 10-30 min without my doing anything. On 2 or 3 occasions it persisted for over an hour until I reset the phone, car or everything I could think of. I'd also note that I went about a month (mostly in February) having the issue on nearly every drive - but over the last two weeks where I have done heavy driving, I only had the issue once (driving uptown along the far west side of Manhattan, GPS put me initially in the Hudson River and eventually in New Jersey).
 
I just returned from 6 long drives. All of my expectations for finding a pattern are out the door. The good or bad news is that the CarPlay worked properly on 6 of 6 drives. This after about two months where is worked less than 20% of the time. Sure feels random to me. Certainly does not seem to vary with location (for me), weather, temperature, charge level.
 
As I said earlier, what worked for me yesterday was turning off wifi on cellphone, getting phone off CarPlay, and then reconnecting. I am driving a few longer drives tomorrow and will see what happens. If reseting as I suggested fails, I will try a second and third time as well. I am guessing it may be a handshaking issue.