[pgershon]

I used to get it once in a blue moon. The last week or so, I seem to have the problem more and more. I have been driving the i4 since September, but suddenly as the weather got colder my iPhone 14 pro dislocates me at the start of drives. It fixes itself at some point along the way, but I cant tell when or why. Cycling airplane mode, wifi, bluetooth does not help.

 

[pgershon]

I will add that the gps mapping issue has gotten much wore since the i4 software upgrade

 

[pgershon]

The more I think about it, the more I believe the problem has gotten worse since the software upgrade. It's also interesting to hear that airplane mode on/off cycle fixed for some people. It does not help mine at all. I find 30 mons of driving seems to correct they problem.

 

[pgershon]

Just drove 2 hours in rain after Super Bowl and map was off for first 1.5 hours until it finally got stuck in one location. When I force quit Waze app on the iphone, Waze came back with proper GPS coordinates. I will see if force quit fixes problem early on next time I see it.

 

[pgershon]

I just called my dealer. He is unaware of the service bulletin but agreed to look into it. Pisses me off if a fix is available and the locals are ignorant of it. It would be great if there were a specific date and/or id to the service bulletin

 

[pgershon]

I sent him the id by email. He did not seem all that interested in a fix. I doubt the dealer has sold more than a handful of i4s and he says I am only one complaining

edit: he also suggested it would be fixed in a future update over the air

 

[pgershon]

Interesting experience yesterday. My son picked me up in a restaurant in downtown NYC and then drove me 2 hours out to East Hampton. For a change, he was the driver and i was the passenger and I got to fiddle with his iPhone set up.

He arrived cursing out the car as he drove in circles around chinatown - he could not get proper positioning from Waze, Apple maps or google. When he finally found me we stopped looking at any mapping software and just let CarPlay play his music for our drive. About an hour later we started getting "red light camera" messages (from waze) popping up over the music display despite the fact we were on a highway (the LIE). Obviously the making was still wrong. I shut down his iPhone's wifi, which disconnected him from car play. We then reconnected and low and behold, the mapping issue was fixed 100%.

I note this experience because (1) the problem persisted for over 90 minutes of his drive; and (2) resetting the car play connect was a perfect fix, once we did it. I believe my son had tried that earlier disconnecting and reconnecting CarPlay earlier in his drive. But what I did differently was the effectively disconnect the phone from its wifi connection to the car. I wonder if this might be a fix for others, or me the next time?

 

[pgershon]

Back to trying to be helpful at finding a solution - my personal experience is that the latest remote software update from BMW, which I believe I installed in January, made the GPS issue very significantly worse. I got my car in September and only used to have the GPS issue on occasion. Since the update, I have had the software issue 90% of the time. Obviously I cant prove anything as my timing is soft, but it seems to fit.

Did anyone else find the GPS issue getting worse over time? Obviously more users came on line in later months.

 

[pgershon]

11/2022 SW introduced this bug. When my car had 07/2022 this issue wasn’t visible to me. It was definitely caused by BMW SW.

I wouldn't say introduced because I did have the problem a few times pre-11/2022, but they were few and far between. Post 11/2022 it seems like close to 75% of my rides or more are affected,

 

[pgershon]

As I said earlier, what worked for me yesterday was turning off wifi on cellphone, getting phone off CarPlay, and then reconnecting. I am driving a few longer drives tomorrow and will see what happens. If reseting as I suggested fails, I will try a second and third time as well. I am guessing it may be a handshaking issue.

 

[pgershon]

I just returned from 6 long drives. All of my expectations for finding a pattern are out the door. The good or bad news is that the CarPlay worked properly on 6 of 6 drives. This after about two months where is worked less than 20% of the time. Sure feels random to me. Certainly does not seem to vary with location (for me), weather, temperature, charge level.

 

[pgershon]

Because there are questions about how common the GPS problem is, I'm posting my experience: i4 delivery 12/31/2022, I have about 3-4 episodes. Each time the Apple CarPlay Map starts out accurate and after about 10-15 minutes, typically soon after I reach highway speed, the location abruptly becomes inaccurate by a couple of hundred feet to one side of the road, not in front or behind, and then tracks along with a steady offset from the true location. Each time, the built in BMW nav is accurate. These episodes occur out in the countryside, flat land, no tall buildings, nothing to interfere with GPS.

It's worth responding because my experiences are 100% the opposite. When I have the GPS issue, I get it right at the start of my drive and usually it goes away within 10-30 min without my doing anything. On 2 or 3 occasions it persisted for over an hour until I reset the phone, car or everything I could think of. I'd also note that I went about a month (mostly in February) having the issue on nearly every drive - but over the last two weeks where I have done heavy driving, I only had the issue once (driving uptown along the far west side of Manhattan, GPS put me initially in the Hudson River and eventually in New Jersey).

 

[pgershon]

Is there a way to get 03/2023.27 in USA now? From dealer if not OTA?

 

[pgershon]

Interesting experience today - I had gone multiple drives without any issues but this morning about 2 minutes into the drive my GPS position was shifted off the map mid-drive. I disconnected my WiFi/connection to CarPlay, turned on airplane mode, and then turned it off so the CarPlay connection would reset. All of this while the Waze screen stayed present on my display. The screen went black, then came back with the proper positioning and resumed my route. About 15 seconds later, GPS went off course again. I repeated the process a second time. Once again after reset, GPS went back to proper location for 15 seconds or so, then went off course again. Then I stopped car for a 30 minute appointment. When I returned, GPS worked perfectly. Only other thing I can think of different from most of my drives is that it was colder this AM (35 degrees when I started car, as opposed to the 40s and 50s on recent drives). Possible that cold temperatures affect the GPS tracking issue more. Consistent with my experience of worse performance starting in November.

 

[pgershon]

I really don’t understand how these OTA updates work. I just today received update 11.2022.63. Had not been offered before.

 

[pgershon]

I am just wondering why I wasn’t offered 2922.63 until now. Others had it for a long time.

 

[pgershon]

I know it's random. I have read it and I believe it. But in my case at least, the randomness correlates strongly with the weather. Since temps have been over 50 degrees virtually all the time, I have stopped getting the bug. Now I know its 70 today and my GPS will probably fail because I typed this, but my experience has correlated well (not perfectly) with outdoor temperature.

 

[pgershon]

Still no OTA download available for me

 

[pgershon]

Still no update for me. Is there a way to force system to send you the latest update or must I wait until my (arbitrary) turn or else go to dealer?

 

[pgershon]

I remain stuck at 11/2022 update. Just got the error today for the first time in almost a month. Car was on in parking garage before I brought any iPhone to it. I wonder if related. Tried to get to service center on way home but was not willing to wait an hour for update.

I wish there was a way to force the OTA update.