[ssh]

100% the GOM is based on recent (since prior charge) driving style and consumption. I had a series of cold short journeys, did a charge and my GOM was 200 miles for 100%. I then did a long chilled drive, topped up and the GOM was 244

Certainly factored in, but it’s not all. There are more variables which are not documented or clear.

 

[andrewjlea80]

100% the GOM is based on recent (since prior charge) driving style and consumption. I had a series of cold short journeys, did a charge and my GOM was 200 miles for 100%. I then did a long chilled drive, topped up and the GOM was 244

polestar definitely wins with the integrated googlemaps showing a very accurate SOC% for arrival that was very reliable

Certainly factored in, but it’s not all. There are more variables which are not documented or clear.

Ok.. so what else can possibly be ‘factored in’? I drive like a dick, and my range goes down. I drive smoothly and it goes up…

 

[ssh]

Sometimes it goes down for no obvious reason. Up, too. That's the evidence.

 

[cruzer666]

Sometimes it goes down for no obvious reason. Up, too. That's the evidence.

Once I saw the the GOM drop from ~180 miles to ~100 miles from one second to another. It’s not good and should be ignored.

 

[yobro 24]

Whilst I have been a big critic of the GOM, I have found it to be accurate and, dare I say, usefull on long journeys of 100 plus miles when it can predict more accurately the range left. Having said that, only if the journey is predictable I suppose. If you start off on the flat and then end up going up the mountains then it will probably be crap? Don't have that in England!

 

[WhippetMcG]

I will wait to see how range estimates work when I get my i4 next week as it’s landed in the UK now. However, I am slightly confused. I have had two Kia e-Niros over the last 3 + years, the newest is still with us. I find the mileage estimates available on the battery are highly reliable. It I believe it uses driving style and history to do this and it really seems to have it nailed. I don’t notice the kinds of differences forum members experience with their i4s. Should this be the case between two different EVs, particularly from two brands that have better electric experience than other manufacturers.
I have to be honest one of the reasons for going i4 was the extra range given the larger battery size compared to my Kia. Some of the mileages being quoted on this forum will leave me a little deflated if that is what I get. However, I know in the Kia I typically get over 4 miles per kW (I drive modestly) so I am hoping that translates into the i4. Time will tell over the coming weeks and months. I will be posting my experience here.

 

[ssh]

As the OP notes: focus on consumption, not the range estimate in the GOM. I'm getting around 3mi/kWh in the cold right now, for example, which is about 240mi/100%

 

[WhippetMcG]

As the OP notes: focus on consumption, not the range estimate in the GOM. I'm getting around 3mi/kWh in the cold right now, for example, which is about 240mi/100%

Ok. Thanks for posting the pdfs - V helpful. When I get the data is it obvious where I get the data points to get my miles / kWh?

 

[ssh]

Ok. Thanks for posting the pdfs - V helpful. When I get the data is it obvious where I get the data points to get my miles / kWh?

I'm not following your question... care to rephrase it?

 

[WhippetMcG]

I'm not following your question... care to rephrase it?

Yes no problem. See why it was not clear.
Where in the i4 do I get the miles per kWh. The data will be accessible somewhere I assume.
In my Kia at the end of every journey it tells me the journey kWh on the dashboard. Journey consumption is accessible by going into EV settings where I can see and calculate my miles per kWh.

 

[ssh]

Yes no problem. See why it was not clear.
Where in the i4 do I get the miles per kWh. The data will be accessible somewhere I assume.
In my Kia at the end of every journey it tells me the journey kWh on the dashboard. Journey consumption is accessible by going into EV settings where I can see and calculate my miles per kWh.

Ah! Yes... You can display it on the instrument cluster. You'll want to set it to mi/kWh in the Values section of the Settings. You can use the upper button on the left stalk to cycle through the various "Since" options. See Trip Data starting on page 153 of the manual.

 

[cruzer666]

Ok. Thanks for posting the pdfs - V helpful. When I get the data is it obvious where I get the data points to get my miles / kWh?

I look at my average consumption for the trip, since factory, since charging and use that miles / kWh number to know about what my range will be.
I have the “Live Car” as a ribbon in my home idrive screen.

For example, my since factory is 3.2 miles/kWh, but that included some more than spirited driving sessions. My average for normal mixed driving with 80-85mph on the freeway is 3.5 miles/kWh. I then use the number using that table to know my range at different SoC.

Note, you have to set the consumption to miles/kWh under Vehicle Settings- Units. If you prefer kWh/100 miles mode, we have that in the table as well.

 

[jsv]

For example, my since factory is 3.2 miles/kWh, but that included some more than spirited driving sessions. My average for normal mixed driving with 80-85mph on the freeway is 3.5 miles/kWh. I then use the number using that table to know my range at different SoC.

I clearly need to take driving lessons from you. 3.2 mi/kWh is about the best I can do on freeways. Per your suggestion on other threads I have started using B, which I do think gives me better consumption rates than D with Adaptive. So maybe if I truly master 1 pedal I can achieve 3.5. Good to know what the target is.

 

[WhippetMcG]

Ah! Yes... You can display it on the instrument cluster. You'll want to set it to mi/kWh in the Values section of the Settings. You can use the upper button on the left stalk to cycle through the various "Since" options. See Trip Data starting on page 153 of the manual.

Brilliant thank you. V helpful.

 

[WhippetMcG]

I look at my average consumption for the trip, since factory, since charging and use that miles / kWh number to know about what my range will be.
I have the “Live Car” as a ribbon in my home idrive screen.

For example, my since factory is 3.2 miles/kWh, but that included some more than spirited driving sessions. My average for normal mixed driving with 80-85mph on the freeway is 3.5 miles/kWh. I then use the number using that table to know my range at different SoC.

Note, you have to set the consumption to miles/kWh under Vehicle Settings- Units. If you prefer kWh/100 miles mode, we have that in the table as well.
View attachment 21033

Very good of you. Thanks for taking the time.

 

[mgroeneweg]

Useful sheet, thanks!

The remaining range for EVs is a mess, my Kona EV also made a guestimate based on the last x km driven. I learned quickly enough to look at remaining SoC to know whether a charge is necessary depending on the trip ahead. The i4 is no different, it also takes into account whether I used the preconditioning with no charge cable connected. Range drops quickly with several short trips with preconditioning (without charge cable connected) in colder weather. After a longer trip, with preconditioning while connected, it is perfectly happy again. At mentioned several times, SoC is the one thing that matters. And the SoC values when planning a route in the app or BMW nav are quite good from my experience.

 

[Guy]

I’m now getting a bit concerned reading through these consumption rates that people are getting. I have had an m50 on 19s since October. I have done almost 6000 miles in it, mostly alone with no heavy loads. I guess 80% of the time has been spent in eco pro, 20% in sport boost. Apart from the odd play, it has been mostly driven at the same speeds as surrounding traffic. Probably half of the miles are on the motorway at say 80mph. My average consumption since factory is 2.6mi/kwh and this hasn’t changed since I got the car. Per trip is always between say 2.5 and 2.8 at the end. I tried to have an “eco” drive after reading others figures and managed 2.9 for the trip. That was really trying too. The climate is left alone at 18 degrees on auto and I think in eco pro it even reduces the heating efforts etc. Why is my long term average of 2.6 so much lower than others ? Honestly, I don’t race everywhere as most miles are work related. I also have a fast bike for that Could there be a problem ? Car is only ever charged at DC chargers of 50-175kw. Could this be affecting the consumption maybe ??. Also the guessometor is fairly accurate for me - 100% would equal around 200 miles of range and that is about what I get 2.6 x 80. I’m not new to ev, had a polestar 2 before this. Strange !

 

[jsv]

I’m now getting a bit concerned reading through these consumption rates that people are getting. I have had an m50 on 19s since October. I have done almost 6000 miles in it, mostly alone with no heavy loads. I guess 80% of the time has been spent in eco pro, 20% in sport boost. Apart from the odd play, it has been mostly driven at the same speeds as surrounding traffic. Probably half of the miles are on the motorway at say 80mph. My average consumption since factory is 2.6mi/kwh and this hasn’t changed since I got the car. Per trip is always between say 2.5 and 2.8 at the end. I tried to have an “eco” drive after reading others figures and managed 2.9 for the trip. That was really trying too. The climate is left alone at 18 degrees on auto and I think in eco pro it even reduces the heating efforts etc. Why is my long term average of 2.6 so much lower than others ? Honestly, I don’t race everywhere as most miles are work related. I also have a fast bike for that Could there be a problem ? Car is only ever charged at DC chargers of 50-175kw. Could this be affecting the consumption maybe ??. Also the guessometor is fairly accurate for me - 100% would equal around 200 miles of range and that is about what I get 2.6 x 80. I’m not new to ev, had a polestar 2 before this. Strange !

I'm in California, 60-80 deg weather. Mostly drive in Comfort. 2.9 since I got it 1700 miles. I think you are in family with me.

 

[WhippetMcG]

I just got an eDrive 40 on 18s and a big part of purchase was battery and range uplift on the eNiro we have. Only done low miles so early days but I am a very moderate driver and the numbers look worrying low. A big reason for joining this forum was user insights and the research I did having reserved suggested range was very able to be 300 plus. One of the reasons I made this post.
Early days for me so will monitor it over the coming weeks and months. Will be back shortly on some of my own experiences with range.

 

[Flyingman]

Almost 4,000 miles in Eco Pro and B, pretty solid at 3.4 Miles/kwh. I'm in South Florida so warm to moderate weather. Doing a 180 mile trip to Key West Saturday so will see what the real Miles/kwh will be. That is a rather long, slow drive, no where for high speed.